docwebster ([personal profile] docwebster) wrote2004-02-28 12:30 am

This is war, people.

(Cut/pasted because the site in question has popups by the score. Credit to Susan Jones at CNSNews.com)


Pro-abortion groups called the bill "a direct assault on South Dakotans' rights," and pro-life advocates see it as a way of directly challenging the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling that legalized abortion.

The bill's main sponsor, Republican state Rep. Matt McCaulley, called it the "strongest, cleanest pro-life legislation" passed by a state legislature since 1973.

Equal Protection

He and other supporters say unborn babies deserve equal protection under the 14th Amendment, and they say the state is within its rights to expand the definition of "persons" to include unborn babies.

"If this is the case that goes to the Supreme Court to get them to overturn Roe versus Wade, so be it," a wire report quoted McCaulley as saying.

South Dakota's pro-life Republican Gov. Mike Rounds has not yet said whether he would sign the bill. He has until March 12 to make up his mind.

The bill makes it a crime to perform abortions. The penalties for doing so include up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine, unless a mother's life is in danger. The bill does not include exceptions for rape or incest.

McCaulley estimated that about 800 abortions are performed every year in South Dakota.


'Be Very Worried'

Every American who "values a woman's right to choose" should be worried, said Kate Michelman, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, in a press release.

Michelman said the bill, if upheld by the courts, could endanger the health of women, send doctors to prison for "doing what is in the best medical interests of their patients," and insert government into personal decisions to the point where some widely used forms of birth control might be banned.

"The anti-choice movement has not been shy about its two-pronged strategy for overturning Roe v. Wade," Michelman said.

She described the strategy as passing bills like the one in South Dakota, then forcing them into the court system and "hoping that George Bush has the opportunity to put new justices on the Supreme Court who will take the opportunity that these bills provide them to take away reproductive freedom."

NARAL Pro-Choice America describes itself as the "leading national advocate of personal privacy and a woman's right to choose."



When are we going to stand up to the Religious Reich, people?

Re: pro-life

[identity profile] popefelix.livejournal.com 2004-02-28 12:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Your morals and your views are your sovreign right, and I'll not gainsay them. Your decision whether or not to have an abortion is between you and your God.

You do not, however, have the right to impose your morals and views on the rest of the country. God has no place in government, period. If you feel otherwise, you're welcome to go and start your own Christian nation, and enshrine that in its Constitution. But don't do it here.

Re: pro-life

[identity profile] katharinakatt.livejournal.com 2004-03-01 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
You know its interesting how flames start up over someone stating their personal views and opinion. I'm free to do that though.

Wars start the same way as flames. I'm not going to flame you....I'm above that. You should repect each other's opinions as well, even if you don't support them.

I respect those who think killing their babies is ok...but I know its wrong and I know what punishment they shall face. Just as I will face punishment for my own sins.

Lets get off this now shall we. There's enough flames and war in the world already.

Re: pro-life

[identity profile] popefelix.livejournal.com 2004-03-01 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
That was not a flame.

If you had stated something to the effect of, "I don't believe in abortion, so I won't ever have one myself," I'd have said nothing. But when you said, "I'm glad they did it," I percieved that as a desire to enshrine your personal morals in law. If I misinterpreted your words, I humbly apologize.

As I said, you have the right to personally do whatever you feel is right as regards this, provided it does not interfere with my or anyone else's right to do as we feel is right.

Re: pro-life

[identity profile] katharinakatt.livejournal.com 2004-03-02 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
yes I'm glad they did it. That's my view my opinion my right. I'm not going to respond more. If you want to beat someone then try someone else. Because you can't beat me.

Re: pro-life

[identity profile] popefelix.livejournal.com 2004-03-02 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
beat? Pfui.

Just keep your God out of my laws and we'll all be very happy people.