docwebster ([personal profile] docwebster) wrote2005-03-19 09:55 am

Try and pay attention, people.

I wasn't arguing the validity of her final wish (although the sole source we have of that being her final wish seems to be her incredibly creepy husband). What I was arguing was the manner of that death. It's babaric, and it's just plain wrong. We don't let people do that to dogs, why in the name of all that's holy, sacred and true are we doing it to a human being?

(Plus, I can't find my damn wallet so that makes me even grumpier.)

[identity profile] kylakae.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I was sitting here thinking the same thing this morning, as I read the story. Is the only alternative STARVATION? While I absolutely agree with her right to die, why is this the only method? Surely there is a more humane way that would allow her to die with dignity? Ugh...

[identity profile] cavalorn.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The rationale is that one is not killing, one is allowing death to happen. Administering a lethal injection would be killing. Disconnecting food and water apparently absolves those who do it, because the death results from inaction instead of action.

Bullshit if you ask me, but there it is.

[identity profile] ex-deliveryboy.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's babaric"

It involved the King of the Elephants?



all joking aside, I agree with you 100% Personally, I think the final right belongs to her parents. They brought her into this world and raised her for most of her life. They should have final say on if and when and HOW she should leave this world. The husband has nothing but "she told me this" which doesn't hold water in any other case besides (apparently) this one.

You'd think that with so many conservatives and "right to lifers" out there, This shouldn't even be an issue in this case.


[identity profile] the-unnamable.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Starving is one of the more gruesome ways to die, but I can imagine that it would be very gruesome to watch, as well... I'm thinking they might give, and put the tube back in...

The whole thing's so... sad.

[identity profile] eleri.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's because we don't have the balls in this country to allow doctors to help someone die peacefully and with dignity.

[identity profile] thatvoiceguy.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hope I didn't come off too cold-hearted here.

I'd also rather see something more peaceful and humane than starvation. However, it's the family members who will truly be undergoing the suffering; Terri Schiavo is unable to "experience" this event any more than any other heretofore-uneffective stimuli.

Not to mention --- okay, I'm mentioning it --- that GOP lawmakers are swinging the pendulum in completely the opposite direction. Humane death? Pshaw. They're determined to keep this woman a vegetable to the very end. Removing the tube at least means that she'll have peace relatively soon.

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[identity profile] unixronin.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Her husband is not the sole source. Something like fifteen of her close friends have testified that she always said she did not want "heroic measures" to be employed to keep her body alive if she was effectively dead.

That said, as Eleri pointed out, yes, in the name of all that's humane and compassionate, allow her a quick, painless death with dignity. Not this fucking seven-year legal freakshow.

[identity profile] born-to-me.livejournal.com 2005-03-20 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Just curious, how do you feel about partial birth abortion? It seems to me an equally barbaric act on a living being, capable of far more pain-sense and cognition at a few months in utero than Terry Shiavo possesses now.