docwebster ([personal profile] docwebster) wrote2006-01-27 01:38 pm

I am removing myself from any mailing lists or communities that deal with Warren Ellis

Why, you might ask?

Because of this entry, wherein he states:

"“Cigarettes are my food,” said Frank Zappa. And then he died of testicular cancer. Which came as no surprise to anyone who’d heard him wanking in recording studios for thirty years, but still. Anyone who names his kid Moon Unit is plainly asking for his balls to rot off. Because there is such a thing as karma. Welcome to the concept of universal payback."

Fuck off, Warren.

[identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"Get the joke" here is short hand for "understand what it is that Ellis is doing every time he opens his mouth in a public forum in which he is on show, such as livejournal."

So when I say some people "get the joke," I am indicating that some people sign the unwritten user agreement expressing their buy-in to the concept of Ellis.

There is rarely the comfort of a perfectly clear bottom line. That's why the real world is such a sticky, uncomfortable place.

Context doesn't abnegate responsibility, but people also have a responsibility to consume responsibly. As I said, it's fine if people don't want to buy-in to the world of Ellis. But as responsible consumers, they ought also, perhaps, to understand that they are reacting to a product.

Keep in mind, I don't have anything against anyone deciding that Ellis isn't a product of which they want to partake. I just think it important to note that he, in his very manufactured online posturing, is playing a role.

[identity profile] cavalorn.livejournal.com 2006-01-28 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
So when I say some people "get the joke," I am indicating that some people sign the unwritten user agreement expressing their buy-in to the concept of Ellis.

Buying in is a good analogy. 'Getting the joke' isn't, in my view, because it's derived from much older, more monocultural models of humour in which comprehension rather than sympathy is the deciding factor.

I just think it important to note that he, in his very manufactured online posturing, is playing a role.

Right, but I don't think people should necessarily bother to take that into account. You don't have to buy into the Ellis user agreement. You don't have to accept the I-had-my-fingers-crossed stance. The worst that can come of it is that you are perceived as having have wasted time with something that someone 'didn't really mean', but it rather seems that the alternative is to let such things roll by unheeded because you might be getting trolled.