A bit of a poser

[docwebster]

To those who actually think "civil unions" are okay.. we didn't let them get away with this happy horseshit forty years ago when it was called "separate but equal", why are we supposed to let them get away with it now? What the hell's next, I ask you - separate homosexual drinking fountains? Homosexuals at the back of the bus? Where in the wide blue hell does it end, people?

Comments

[stypica.livejournal.com]

I dunno... If there is a separation of church and state...seems like the marriage part would be church, and should be performed as such... civil union seems like anything that the state uses for laws and such... I would consider a hetero couple going to the JOP for the legal benefits of marriage a "civil union" and a gay couple going to whatever religion and getting joined a "marriage" (if that is even what their particular faith would call it).

In the end it's just symantics. Marriages won't help gays love each other more any more than it helps "standard" couples - it just grants legal protection and rights. Which to me is what a civil union should be about.

I guess that changes the current system way too mch to work though:/

[nehi.livejournal.com]

i agree -- and i'm glad someone else pointed it out, too.

in most european countries, a church marriage and a legal union are not the same thing, nor are they mutually inclusive. the common practice is to go get the legal ceremony (usually small, and private) done in the morning, then have the big 'church wedding' later in the day.

the problem with the whole situation here is that they are -not- mutually exclusive. most 'church weddings' also carry with them the legal benefits, although legal weddings do not carry the sacramental benefits, according to the church, and thus must be blessed. what this country needs is not gay marriage rights, but the legal rights and standings of any heterosexual couple married in the eyes of the law. our country just needs to do a better job of separating church and state -- in mind, as well as in legality.

[nehi.livejournal.com]

let me rephrase that:

but the legal rights and standings of any heterosexual couple joined in the eyes of the law.

which, actually, winds up illustrating my point further -- the inclusion is so ingrained that even when trying to make a point I went and fucked it up. :P

[docwebster.livejournal.com]

Poor dear. She hasn't had any chocolate or drills today.