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I'm tired of LJ-cutting this. People need to get their heads out of the sand and stop ignoring what's going on with the neo-cons. So hit downspace a few times or use that scroll bar if this isn't your bag.

"Can you imagine taking an international poll of nations to determine whether or not we need to protect you?" Bush asked, eliciting boos from the partisan crowd.

That was one of Bush's questions to a partisan crowd in Iowa today.

For context, what Kerry said was that while every president has the right to strike pre-emptively, he must do it in a way that passes a "global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you're doing what you're doing, and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons."

Of course, as is usual Bush utterly ignored an earlier statement from Kerry in that debate where he said, and quite clearly, that "I'll never give a veto to any country over our security".

President Bush would rather you forget that part.

Kerry's exact quote:

Here is what Kerry said during the debate:

"No president, through all of American history, has ever ceded -- and nor would I -- the right to preempt in any way necessary, to protect the United States of America," the Democrat told moderator Jim Lehrer during the debate.

"But if and when you do it, Jim, you've got to do it in a way that passes the, the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people, understand fully why you're doing what you're doing, and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons."

In short, make sure you've got all your ducks in a row before you try to sell war to a public all too ready to grind your skull into hamburger if you try to sell them a load of bilge.

For further coverage on Kerry's response to what he rightly called "pathetic" scaremongering by the folks at 1600 Pennsylvania, go here.

"DeMint said after the debate that he would not require teachers to admit to being gay, but if they were “openly gay, I do not think that they should be teaching at public schools.”"

That.. filth spewed from Jim DeMint is representative of exactly what the modern Republican party is being turned into, and what led the son of no less an American icon than Dwight D. Eisenhower to renounce the Republican party, go independent, and endorse John Kerry for President.

Tonight, John Edwards and Dick Cheney face off in their only scheduled debate. I do not for a second expect Cheney to be as visibly unprepared and downright pathetic as Bush was last week (nor do I expect Bush to be a stammering goober two debates in a row. His people will cancel the debate before they'll let that happen again.). But Edwards has been a fire breathing pit bull himself against the policies and actions of the Bush administration, so Cheney had better be prepared for one hell of a fight.

That's the news and I am outta here!

Actually...

Date: 2004-10-05 10:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seawasp
This stuff isn't particularly surprising. It's standard politico tactics. He's quoting, or addressing, JUST the right parts of his opponent's speech to make himself look good and the other guy bad -- on a superficial view, which is all that matters in a speech on TV or to a crowd. From HIS point of view, note, he DID have all his ducks in a row -- he DID sell the war, and the war went through, and he accomplished HIS goals -- to beat the crap out of Saddam Hussein. And "the public" isn't ready to grind his skull or anyone else's. Most of the public is either blissfully unaware, or doesn't care.

The polls will (hopefully) determine whether Bush stays in office or not, but I'm still willing to bet that less than half the eligible voters will actually show up.


Am I sounding cynical here? Or is it just me?

Date: 2004-10-05 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popefelix.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to say that Jim DeMint is from my state. The sad thing is that I can't vote for his opponent, Inez Tenenbaum - she supports FMA, and I am resolved to vote against any candidate supporting this amendment.

Date: 2004-10-06 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madsqueeble.livejournal.com
Is it just me or is Bush sweating our more and more brain cells every day? -.O

Kerry all the way, providing he sticks to his guns when elected to term.

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