docwebster ([personal profile] docwebster) wrote2004-11-06 09:10 am

Understand me.

I want to make that bastard's life a living, breathing, waking nightmare of futility for the next four years. I want to write congressmen, senators, use my online pulpit (for lack of a better term) to expose every dark design he and his PNAC puppetmasters have, help steer the election of 2006 to cut his powerbase out from under him.. in short, I want this second term in office to be his own personal Purgatory.

You want morals?

Feed the hungry.

Clothe the naked.

Visit the sick and the afflicted.

Care for the widows and orphans (aka single parent families).

Visit those in prison.

Love your neighbor.

Where's the morality in letting children go hungry and homeless while the rich get tax breaks?

Pretty radical ideas, those.

I'm sure the Religious Reich wouldn't recognize them. No, they're more concerned with making sure two guys can't get married and call it getting married, not to mention all the fun of bombing the shit out of brown people (thank you, George Carlin). That's a priority to them. Those Leviticus-swilling morons wouldn't recognize compassion if it jumped up and bit them in their SUVs.

(Portions of this screed adapted from a conversation with an LJ friend who shall remain nameless unless otherwise bidden.)

EDIT: A hospital has been razed to the ground in one of the heaviest US air raids in the Iraqi city of Falluja.

A FUCKING HOSPITAL!

[identity profile] murnkay.livejournal.com 2004-11-06 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Go read [livejournal.com profile] scottbateman, a great political cartoonist. He got mail from a reader saying that he would rather have a shitty economy and a war than have gays marry each other. I mean someone actually SAID THAT>

[identity profile] popefelix.livejournal.com 2004-11-06 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Iraq is turning into a quagmire, to use the vernacular. :)

I don't know if we can salvage it, but I think that if anything's to be done, it must be done by other Arabs and other Muslims.

As for morals, I agree that those are fine morals to have. I don't necessarily think that the federal government is the best place to implement those morals, mostly because I feel that government breeds incompetence therein, but I'm willing to listen to arguments against my position. :)

[identity profile] faithwallis.livejournal.com 2004-11-06 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This is something I've been thinking about lately. In reality, all our society really has is the individuals within it. All we have are the connections we've made with those individuals.

I have the infancy of ideas in my mind, but need to think more. Check out my LJ and maybe I'll have something up soon.

[identity profile] mainframe.livejournal.com 2004-11-06 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
As a single mom who has been very *extensively* helped by my local church, I take issue with your remarks. I guess it didn't occur to you that a lot of Christians *do* those things, did it.

I could point at the program they run, free, with childcare and meals, for single moms; no preaching, just a honest to goodness life skills kind of program. How to budget, etc...real, useful stuff. Each mom is assigned an "encourager" - another single mom who's been through the class before, and is meant to be a listening ear/ support.

I could give more examples. I don't think you want to hear about that, though. It might challenge your preconceived notions of how you view Christians, and we can't have that, now can we?

[identity profile] docwebster.livejournal.com 2004-11-06 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Easy does it, there.

I never once said they were all like that, now did I?

By all means, GIVE more examples. I know they're out there and I've been helped on many an occasion, as well. But go ahead and help convince people there's a very large difference between Christian and Religious Reich.

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2004-11-07 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
*otherwise bids*

I've never seen you imply that Christians so not give assistance to the poor, nor have I ever implied that.*

The fact is, however, that in this election, "morals" and "moral values" meant "keep gay people from getting married." Those words were not used to describe aid to the needy. In fact, the Bush administration has slashed aid to social services again and again and again, while giving that nice fat tax break to the richest. To me, that math says "rob the poor to buy off the rich." After all, the poor aren't making campaign contributions.

The Republican party's use of the word "moral" has nothing whatsoever to do with actual Christianity (defined as the practice of following the words of Christ). That was my point.

* I do NOT like the politics of the Salvation Army, and I'm still miffed over their attempted backroom deal with Bush when the Faith-Based Initiative thing was jsut getting started. However, the Salvation Army provides a tremendous amount of help to those in desperate need, and has become the first AND last resort of homeless families. I work at a non-profit poverty advocacy organization. We have specific grants which can help families in specific circumstances, but the families who fall outside the grant criteria have to be referred elsewhere. There are a lot of these people. Currently, the Salvation Army's emergency housing program, which is meant to keep individuals and families from sleeping in cars and on park benches (keep in mind I live in Montana, and sleeping outside this time of year means probably not waking up), has a TWO-WEEK WAITING LIST. That's how underfunded and overburdened they are. That's the plight of every single organization, governmentally-funded or otherwise, which gives direct assistance to those in need.