docwebster ([personal profile] docwebster) wrote2005-03-29 03:54 pm

Another damned thing

I really, really, really despise the whole "We're childfree so we're better than you. Down with chestbursters. YAY!" mentality evidenced by most of (but by no means all of) that lot.

[identity profile] ceruleanst.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't like the people who say that, feed them to the horses. I've heard that accusation leveled at a lot of groups who refuse to shut up and accept their second-class citizenship. "I'm childfree and I'm not ashamed" translates to some imagined claim of superiority, because, shit, a person wouldn't make that choice if they didn't think it was better. We hear about the elitist liberals who go around acting like they're better than conservatives, and the otherkin who obviously think they're better than human, and so on. I don't buy it. It's rhetoric aimed at quelling the voice of what would be an invisible minority when they get uppity enough to act like they're as good as regular people.

[identity profile] hiddenmuse.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Where do we sign up for the "Turning Holier-Than-Thou Assholes Into Soylent Green" field trip? I'd be more than happy to help with that one. *evil smirk*

[identity profile] ceruleanst.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, I'm being a bit opaque. "If you don't like the people who say that, feed them to the horses" is my way of saying something is a straw man; in other words, show me a real existing elitist and maybe I'll take the complaint somewhat seriously while we then work on the word "most."

[identity profile] hiddenmuse.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
No worries - I was making assumptions ... but the clarification makes more sense! :)

[identity profile] stypica.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
'"I'm childfree and I'm not ashamed" translates to some imagined claim of superiority, because, shit, a person wouldn't make that choice if they didn't think it was better'

and that is where you and I disagree - edit that to be "a person wouldn't make that choice if they didn't think it was better for them</>"

having a kid or not doesn't make a person better or worse. for some people, being a parent is the best thing they could ever do - they positively affect a life and nurture a child into a decent adult. For others, a kid is just a byproduct of drunken stupidity, or because it's a way to fatten a check, or to fill some fucked up hole in their own life. Those people should also be ground up for horse meat - not only are they fucking up their own life, they are most likely fucking up any life their offspring will have.

people just need be more self aware, and less defensive about other people's decisions. Especially when they have no impact on anyone else's life.

I have to say I'm not necessarily proud of being childless, but it is a decision I've made that I am certainly not ashamed of. Why would I be, and why would you care?

[identity profile] stypica.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
woops, forgot an "i" in my closing tag :)

[identity profile] docwebster.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Old age will do that. *ducks quickly*

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2005-03-30 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Word word wordy McWord.

I'm not going to have any anytime soon, never wanted them, never going to have them. For many reasons, not least that I realise I am NOT parent material, I don't have the patience or the temperament, and don't want to subject any child as a result to my inadequacies as a human being, because that would fuck them up royally.

That's a decision I made very early on in my life, and I'm sticking with it.